the bible and today the bible is front and center again, his bible and president lincoln's bible. so you have 150 years of the emancipation proclamation and 50 years of the dream and they're represented by those two bibles today. >> gretchen: it's so unbelievable it will be the bible for president obama as he he's celebratory swearing in today. and the youth leader was asking the kids if they knew about martin luther king, jr. and of course many raised hands and what i loved was hearing the variety of answers from, he was a pastor, to he was trying to bring peace to the world, et cetera. and i thought it was wonderful that the kids, obviously, know about the lessons that your uncle brought to this nation. how do you think he would tackle the issue of gun control that we're talking about today? >> well, i believe, i remember and my family, all pictures, including dr. king, and jesus christ when he was in the garden and peter took a sword and chopped off the guard's ear trying to protect jesus and jesus put the guard's ear back on and said i'm here to do a job and it's okay, peter. and he